September 02, 2004

The Shitstorm of ’04: Day 3

Today seemed a bit more calm than yesterday, as there was no coordinated anarchist demonstration this time- although the fact that protesters were able to get into the convention doesn't bode well for those of us worried about terrorism. And I was at work much of the day so I missed out on whatever else happened.

- So after work I headed down to Union Square to see what was going on- and whaddya know, the Protest Warriors were there! Holding up this sign:

They were, of course, outnumbered about five-to-one by nearby protesters, but held their own regardless- mostly because they're pretty experienced with it, and also because most of the protesters were used to hearing no challenges to their views whatsoever (see Scott Ganz post below). Almost every argument I saw ended with the protester screaming "you're a fucking idiot," or with an O'Reilly-style "shut up!"

A few people objected to the guy holding a “100 million people murdered by communism” sign, with one calling the debate over communism irrelevant because “there aren’t any communists anymore” (this in a city where I’ve seen about 500 Che Guevara shirts in the last three days), while others gave some variation on “what’s so bad about communism?”

Then, like the guy on the subway in that one “Seinfeld” episode, an old Ukrainian guy emerged from the shadows and argued that if anyone knows the horrors of communism, HE does. Then, he made a “Hanoi Jane” joke, which for some reason led his antagonist to run away, screaming “you’re a racist!”

- Another highlight in Union Square was running into a guy in a “Fuck Bush” button- worn over his Jason Sehorn Giants jersey. I didn’t have the heart to tell him the truth, which is that Sehorn 1) is a Republican who spoke at the convention Monday, 2) isn’t with the Giants anymore, and 3) sucks.

- Michael Reagan is a such a different guy when he’s not vitriolicly spewing right-wing talking points on “Hannity and Colmes.” Aside from the crude reference to his parents being “pro-life,” the tribute to Reagan was nice. But then it was ruined at the end by that awful Lee Greenwood song. Leading to the following exchange between Jeremy and I:

Me: This song is an insult to Reagan’s memory, as far as I'm concerned.

Jeremy: But the song came out while he was president

Me: True. But it aged a lot worse than he did. Which, considering he was nearly catatonic for the last ten years of his life, is saying a lot.

- Zell Miller’s speech was certainly the most effective of the convention so far, and he clearly was relishing the opportunity to take his longtime colleague, Kerry, down a peg or two. It was a stirring, vitriolic speech, one a Republican probably couldn’t have given, but I didn’t like its straw-man argumentation, in that it stooped to the Coulter-esque you-can’t-criticize-the-president-during-war canard. It was also hard to take anything Miller said seriously after reading this TNR piece today, which looked at Miller’s entire career and depicted him as a ruthless opportunist who has taken whatever position- from segregationism to Clintonism to Bushism- has been popular at the time.

Another thing about Miller- the first political convention I ever watched was the DNC in 1992- when I rooted for the Democrats the way I had for the Twins in the previous year’s World Series- and that same Zell Miller gave the keynote. In the same building, as many have pointed out, Miller bashed the incumbent President Bush and even made fun of Dan Quayle for not knowing how to spell “potato.” What a difference 12 years makes, as the same man comes to praise another President Bush who, as far as I know, has not yet proven that he knows how to spell the word.

Anyway, I guess Miller and Chris Matthews went at it on the air tonight (though I didn’t see it); Miller even invoked the Michelle Malkin incident as proof of Matthews’ unfairness to his guests. It really sucks that this false meme –Matthews as left-wing attack dog- will soon make its way around the right-wing echo chamber, when Sean Hannity gets a pass for viciously attacking liberal guests every single night a few channels over.

- Not much to say about Dick Cheney; it was just boring. And shouldn’t the delegates learn some rhythm before they start chanting again? It’s not that hard to make “flip-flop/flip-flop” rhyme.

- Ted Koppel and Jon Stewart supposedly hate each other, but I guess they made nice, because Stewart was on “Nightline” tonight. A great interview- Stewart, in a rare display of overt partisanship, called the Swift Boat Veterans “liars,” while Koppel asked a hilarious question, something like “if in the middle of his speech President Bush broke from his prepared text and decided to call me, Ted Koppel, a pedophile, would the media be obligated to report it?” Sounded like more of an Ali G question than a Koppel one, but nevermind.

- And if you’ve got 4-5 hours to kill at work Friday, check out New York Press’ 1001 Things to Hate About the Convention. It baits both left and right, reminiscent of the NYP I used to love.

Tomorrow we conclude. And I just realized exactly how conservative I feel whenever I watch the protesters, and how liberal I feel whenever I watch the speeches. Anyone else feel the same way?

Posted by Stephen Silver at September 2, 2004 01:19 AM
Comments

It was also hard to take anything Miller said seriously after reading this TNR piece today, which looked at Miller’s entire career and depicted him as a ruthless opportunist who has taken whatever position- from segregationism to Clintonism to Bushism- has been popular at the time.

I'll agree with you about Miller's rank opportunism. But that then leads to the question: If you can't take anything such a ham-fisted opportunist says seriously, why are you so eagerly supporting John Kerry?

Posted by: at September 2, 2004 08:54 AM

Steve,

Your point about Matthews being labeled an attack dog for the left while Insannity goes merrily on, is right on point.
It's the sme with these speeches and Miller's challenging Matthews to a duel.

If a dem keynote had gone after Bush this way, they would have called foul. And if Ted Kennedy had challenged Insannity to a duel, they'd be jumping ugly all over his ass, calling him a drunken lunatic.

So why are so many giving wackos like Miller and Malkin passes?

It's unfathomable to me. If anyone can explain this phenomenon, I'm all ears.

Posted by: zoey at September 2, 2004 09:50 AM

You feel that way about protesters because the most vocal/controversial ones are idiots! And they ruin it for the rest of us.

"Fuck Bush", "Bush sucks", and "Bush makes baby Jesus cry" doesn't accomplish anything, but looks nice. Really nice.

Where as a long, long, long lines of people holding symbolic pink slips is symbolic yet not easily broadcast on TV.

Now, what's more important? Being on TV or not?... I mean, making a point or not?

Posted by: Jeff S at September 2, 2004 11:12 AM

And I just realized exactly how conservative I feel whenever I watch the protesters, and how liberal I feel whenever I watch the speeches. Anyone else feel the same way?

Well said!

Posted by: Mike Silverman at September 2, 2004 12:31 PM

what is it with this pink slip? are we supposed to be in the throes of some late-1930s-esque depression? with an unemployment rate of 5.5% today, which is exactly what it was when clinton was re-elected?

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at September 2, 2004 01:58 PM

Unrelated to any of the above comments:

Koppel was actually the guest on the Daily Show Tuesday night if I'm not mistaken, so it was Stewart's turn to return the favor last night then I guess. I assume they've made up and everything nice like that.

Posted by: jaws at September 2, 2004 02:38 PM

I saw the Koppel interview on the Daily Show. It was a riot.

Posted by: Emily at September 2, 2004 04:02 PM

Miller and Kerry aren't exactly 'long time colleagues.' Although they were both Lieutenant Governors of their respective states at the same time in the 1980s, Zell Miller only became a Senator in the summer of 2000, to replace the late Paul Coverdell. Miller won a special election in the fall of 2000 to fill out Coverdell's remaining 4 years. They're no more colleagues than the other Senators first elected in 2000, like Hillary Clinton, Jon Corzine, or Maria Cantwell.

Posted by: Matthew :) at September 2, 2004 06:56 PM

I understand the point of the sign, but slavery, fascism, communism, and "nazism" still exist. What war did was help to diminsh them; it didn't eradicate them in the least.

Posted by: Jeremy Wahlman at September 3, 2004 10:10 AM

And I just realized exactly how conservative I feel whenever I watch the protesters, and how liberal I feel whenever I watch the speeches.

Bingo.

Posted by: Oberon at September 3, 2004 11:16 AM

I see your pal Andrew sullivan on tv. I can't stanz him (Jason Alexander was on Bill Maher show too and kicked ass)!

Posted by: A at September 3, 2004 11:43 PM

I love the Miller speech but I agree with you that dissent is always an option, even in war time. I have a bigger problem with the fact that I don't know what Kerry opposes exactly. Is he against the war or not? Enough with the nuance, pick a side.
The thing about Matthews is that he pretends to be unbiased. Sean Hannity does not. I respect someone a lot more if they just admit their biases, everyone has them.

Posted by: Karol at September 4, 2004 01:50 AM
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